Kimbo Slice: Reader's Opinion

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I would like for whoever feels like posting to give their opinion on Kimbo Slice. You can range from his first couple wins... to his recent loss by "tKo" to Seth Petruzelli aka The Pink Haired Guy. lol

I have always felt Kimbo was over promoted due to his internet fame. I have seen almost every video of Kimbo's backyard fights online and I know hes a bad dude. He can scrap. I respect his willingness to come to the sport of MMA, but only more so because it's another face for me to see get knocked out or knock people out. Who wouldn't sign the contract he got and fight professionally? EliteXC made a joke of the MMA world by allowing an unproven MMA fighter to headline their events.

Some of you may know, but Kimbo Slice was originally suppose to fight veteran Ken Shamrock, older brother of the loud mouth Frank Shamrock. The day before the fight Shamrock is cut and needs stitches. This guy Seth Petruzelli is asked to fight Kimbo and he accepts the challenge on less than a day's notice. Now, some people may not even think twice about what I am going to say, but for some reason I feel I am right on one of these 2 theories.

First theory: Ken Shamrock was paid an undisclosed amount of money to not fight. Second theory: Ken Shamrock was offered more money to lose on purpose, however, coming to his senses realizes he isn't capable of such mockery and decides to pull out.

Those 2 theories may sound a bit far fetched, but seriously, Ken is a veteran in the sport. He knows what you can and can not do before fights in order to show up prepared and well, able to fight.

Bottom Line: I think EliteXC was willing to do anything to market Kimbo Slice out to the world as the prodigy of MMA. His first 2 fights were against a washed up out of shape has-been and a decent fighter who was winning when Kimbo decided to bust open the cauliflower ear that for some reason was NOT drained before the fight as normally required. This caused the ref to stop the fight due to the excessive bleeding and kimbo got the win.

Any thoughts..

[BornOfFire]

He is a great backyard fighter but doesn't know shit in the ufc ring. I remember his first fight, he almost lost a couple times by losing his balance.

[MR>ORANGE]

i liked kimbo as a back yard fighter better. The use to fuck people up hardcore.

[ExcEllEnZe]

you already know my stance on him scream.. i think that elite was going to try and pull a screwjob on shamrock so he purposely took a razor to his eye to get out of this.. his bro (possible replacement) couldnt have been bought out by cbs so they didnt allow him to fight and clearly denied his involvement in the fight.. then they (cbs/elitexc) pulled somebody that was there to watch the main event out of the crowd (that had some mma exp) and asked him to fight..

you know that i already think they ear thing was a back-up plan if he started losing..

this fight they saw another nobody that was 30 pounds lighter than kimbo and figured kimbo would just destroy him.. after finding out that he had experience in ufc, they would be able to promote that he's 2-0 or 3-0, whatever against people with ufc experience...

so no.. your theories don't sound too farfetched

[[LiGHT SPEED]]

really i think it was a flop..imo kimbo dove to the ground, before the fight he had that cut above his eye, ppl said due to practice or sumtin to do wit ken shamrock? idk..but anyways a guy that big shouldnt go down with a punch like wut landed on him. ive seen him get hit harder times than that and he didnt go down, im not a kimbo fan but hes fun to watch. when he was on the ground that guy didnt land all of his punches. kimbo was slightly fazed but i think he could of got up and still fought..i kno he wasnt protecting himself thats why the ref stopped it but, anyways it is what it is..

[M.TYSON]

bullshit stoppage in my opinion.. i like kimbo in those backyard fights but i dont think he has a clue about mma at all

[ReaLesT]

right he's a street brawler...Elite will go under if they keep backing him,The mma world doesn't even like elite cause there backing a guy who isn't shit.

[ScreaM]

right he's a street brawler...Elite will go under if they keep backing him,The mma world doesn't even like elite cause there backing a guy who isn't shit.



so true!!!!!!!!

[OPEN-WiDE]

shit was fixed, it was corny, Kimbo would have never lost that fight if the ref didn't stop it.....but i didn't see the fight LIVE i watched it on youtube, just my opinion that it was fixed. I don't know much about the sport so can't really debate it much, from what i seen though....FIXED!!!

[ScreaM]

tell kimbo to cover his face or make some sort of effort to avoid being hit.. or hit back... maybe then he wouldnt lose.. sitting there dazed.. eating hammer fists is too dangerous for anyone.

[[LiGHT SPEED]]

he connected like 3 times out of the 20 times he tried punching..kimbo started to lean forward as the ref stopped it...if he gave him 3 more seconds i think he would of got up..or atleast cover him self up. but anyways brock lesnar is the future of UFC..hes a monster that 1st lost he had was due to unexperience he was pounding that guy up and then he wasnt cautious and got caught ..

[ScreaM]

i think brock lesnar has a great MMA future ahead of him...

hes strong. fast.. got a good wrestling background.. and he trains hard... brock lesnar vs kimbo slice would have been a good fight... or atleast a respectable one. seeing how both are inexperienced but have huge backgrounds already

[OPEN-WiDE]

i think brock lesnar should put a helmet on, dress up in midnight green and come play DE/LB for the eagles!! He's a fuckin monster!!

[ScreaM]

like i said earlier...

Brock Lesnar looks like a Ninja Turtle

Kimbo Slice looks like King Kong

King Kong vs Ninja Turtle... sounds good to me

[[LiGHT SPEED]]

lesnar played linebacker for vikings for a lil then quit i think..lol the dude weights like 300 and is fast, BIG, and agressive...

[Granonite]

I'm probably the only person in the world who thinks boxing > mma. I don't really care much for the stuff ;/

[M.TYSON]

i love boxing too but there arent enough big draws like back in the day. and i belive lesnar tried out for the vikings and got cut..

[ExcEllEnZe]

he got cut from the practice squad

[ReaLesT]

Yea getting cut from practice squad ...Ur not NFL ready by any means


What's that guy say...''You wouldn't make it in Pro Football'' LoL:shotgun:


And here's Kimbo gettin smoked


YouTube - Kimbo Slice lost to Seth Petruzelli

[ExcEllEnZe]

hmm... i don't think pink haired guy got the memo about he was supposed to lose the fight...

[ReaLesT]

Just proves me right...I mean yea on the street he'll whip Ur Ass no doubt.But there is a reason why it's MMA..Mixed being the key.

[Granonite]

Wow... That video was weak!

[ReaLesT]

Yea...I stick with UFC where the real fighters are...And as far as Gina she needs to come over to the Force...LoL:lurk:

[ScreaM]

yea.. i like all MMA tho realest... nothing like watchin two competitors with mad heart going at it... i.e. griffin vs bonner part 1.... that fight was insane...their rematch tho.. wasnt good at all..

and as for gina carano... tyson said it best.. call me a stalker that doesnt quite stalk... that girl besides her cankles is hot as hell

[ReaLesT]

yea.. i like all MMA tho realest... nothing like watchin two competitors with mad heart going at it... i.e. griffin vs bonner part 1.... that fight was insane...their rematch tho.. wasnt good at all..

and as for gina carano... tyson said it best.. call me a stalker that doesnt quite stalk... that girl besides her cankles is hot as hell

Well i still watch it i just laugh at the Kimbo fights and shit...I mean there are some good ones,but fights like that kimbo one...They will lose all there following...Like i like pride but i know some who dont...I can and will watch it if it's all that's on..Unless it's UfC then def there..Not dickridin but they got the best fights now-a-days..

[[LiGHT SPEED]]

realest kimbo didnt get rocked..9 out of 10 times kimbo would knock that guy out..

anyways anderson silva >

[ScreaM]

well lightspeed that ratio is a bit off seeing as how hes 0-1 ALREADY against him.lol

gina carano > kimbo

[ReaLesT]

realest kimbo didnt get rocked..9 out of 10 times kimbo would knock that guy out..

anyways anderson silva >


Whatever Kimbo sux man...That's bottom line..Fuck U-Tube videos...Yea he handles his money on backyard fights..But come on Rashad evans,or Bas Rutten come on they would beat the shit outta him...Forrest Griffen...Man u can go down the list of fighters that could one by one beat him outta the ring...Not hating on the guy,I just don't think he is all he is cracked up to be...He's Def not MMA fighter. Street Brawler yes.

[[LiGHT SPEED]]

it was bad call by ref,, that guy barley punched him an was barley hitting him on the ground.. exxactly y i said 9 out of 10 times cuz he lost all ready..

and another thing realest..read my previous post, im not a kimbo fan, i kno he wud get rocked by rashad evans i never said he is the next best thing..he jus a straight brawler. i jus said that fight was a flop..rematch an kimbo would knock him out

[ReaLesT]

it was bad call by ref,, that guy barley punched him an was barley hitting him on the ground.. exxactly y i said 9 out of 10 times cuz he lost all ready..



Well see how he does next couple fights.I hear ya light not a fan either,just saying there fucking up by backing him so much.There are so many better fighters they could lure over.

[ScreaM]

kimbo didnt even try to contest the ref stopping the fight.. watch him holdin his face while the ref stopped it.. he knew he lost...

either way. i hope kimbo likes the sport and takes it serious.. and trains hard and comes back and shows he can fight in MMA... but if hes not gonna take it serious then just get out now...

but we can all agree.. gina carno would kill kimbo..lol

[ReaLesT]

Yea...Shit she could whip my ass anytime..

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Petruzelli’s improbable victory raises many unanswered questions

October 5, 2008 by Sam Caplan

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Sunrise, Fla. — You could say it’s never happened in MMA but it did earlier this decade just prior to a UFC pay-per-view event in Atlantic City when Kevin Randleman tripped on a pipe just moments before having been scheduled to fight.

Yet Ken Shamrock’s removal from a headline fight just hours before show time is still somewhat unprecedented considering the exposure involved with televising an event on primetime network television.

What happened to EliteXC and CBS on Saturday afternoon was the equivalent to playing black jack at a casino and being dealt a 16 and then opting to hit and drawing an ace, leaving you at 17. Sure, you didn’t bust but your chances of beating the house aren’t especially strong.

Only a handful of people were oblivious to the fact that Kimbo Slice was going to lose sooner rather than later, but not in our wildest dreams did we imagine it would be Seth “The Silverback” Petruzelli. And when Slice would lose, I think the scenario most of us had envisioned would be via submission as opposed to knockout.

Slice deserves credit for stepping up and agreeing to fight a more dangerous opponent on virtually no notice. But did he have much of a choice? Had the show gone on without a main event, offering refunds to Slice’s devoted followers that had purchased tickets to the Bank Atlantic Center might have been the least of everyone’s concerns. And considering he’s chanted a mantra countless times that he was willing to fight anyone, anywhere, declining to save the day and take a fight vs. a 0-2 UFC fighter might not have played well with the media.

What happens next to Slice, Petruzelli, EliteXC, and CBS remains to be seen. During the show’s post-fight press conference, nobody had any immediate answers. And why should they? Was there any possible way to see this coming? Granted, there are risks whenever you entrust half of your main event to a 44-year old Ken Shamrock, but it’s one thing to break down in the midst of a grueling training camp and another to suffer a cut the day of what could be a fighter’s final major payday.

How and why Shamrock sustained a laceration is yet another question that this article will fail to provide a definitive answer to. Of particular interest is why Shamrock elected to go to the emergency room to have the laceration treated.

Once he stepped into that hospital, there shouldn’t have been any doubt about the repercussions. Speaking with several veteran fighters on Saturday, I was told that they would have handled the situation differently and that it is not uncommon to glue a cut shut and then apply makeup just prior to a pre-fight checkup with the commission.

Theories that Shamrock cut himself intentionally while looking for an easy way out have understandably spread through the Internet like wildfire. But Shamrock is a fighter with many financial burdens and he was in no position to sacrifice a six-figure payday. After all, if he was truly scared, he could have pulled another Buzz Berry and gone down at the first sign of contact.

However, if you find the whole nature of events that took place yesterday to be highly irregular and bizarre, you’re not alone. I can’t help but be reminded of the countless times a professional athlete claimed a freak accident caused a serious injury during the offseason only to learn months later that they really hurt themselves partaking in an activity prohibited by their employer.

The whole thing makes little sense: from Shamrock weighing in at 206.5 pounds to him sustaining a serious cut just hours before airtime.

While EliteXC Head of Fight Operations Jeremy Lappen refused to rule out the possibility of working with Shamrock again in the future, I can’t envision a scenario in which a major promotion will ever work with him again. If Shamrock wants to be involved with MMA from a grassroots level and fight for regional promotions, I’m sure he’ll have some options. But I’ve got to believe his days in the “Big Leagues” are over.

Slice took the loss like a man and appeared at the post-fight press conference. He thanked his family and supporters and also thanked Petruzelli for stepping up. Following Slice’s comments, the two embraced in a brief hug and a handshake and the former Internet street fighting sensation went on his way.

Lappen and EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw both stated during the post-fight press conference that they still consider Slice a star and that he’ll be back. While he’s unlikely to retire, last night’s event could be the final time we see Slice headline a show. An enormous amount of weight has been lifted off his shoulders. However, finding good matchups for Slice was already a difficult task that has now become even harder. Realistically, where does a fighter go following a loss to an unproven such as Petruzelli?

Petruzelli has become a real-life Rocky Balboa but I’m uncertain whether a new star was born last night or if Petruzelli’s 15 minutes of fame have already begun counting down? Do you try and build him up further, or do you immediately try to transfer whatever momentum he has to a more viable entity?

While Petruzelli is a great story, he’s still viewed by many as nothing more as an 0-2 UFC washout with little upside. Do you rush him back for a Nov. 8 show against Rafael Feijao in a bout for the vacant EliteXC light heavyweight title, or do you try and showcase him several months from now against a lesser opponent?

In an ideal world, Slice’s first loss would have come to a more visible fighter such as Brett Rogers, but CBS and EliteXC had few options thanks to Mr. Shamrock’s questionable judgment. It was either go with Slice vs. Petruzelli as the main event or continue with a show sans Slice.

How this loss affects EliteXC and CBS is also uncertain. Rumors of a potential sale continue to circulate; as do rumors that CBS’ vision for Saturday Night Fights will be altered going forward. Instead of putting eggs in only a few baskets, it is believed that an anticipated deal with Tito Ortiz and a possible long-term partnership with Affliction could bring legitimate star power to the fledgling franchise.

Even if Kimbo had won, his days as the primary focus of the promotion were likely over. The promotion also has a Shamrock in its stable that never fails to deliver in Frank Shamrock. And despite being a fixture on the first three CBS telecasts, we’ve yet to see him compete on primetime network television. The SNF franchise isn’t exactly dead if you’re able to feature fighters such as Frank Shamrock, Tito Ortiz, FedorEmelianenko , and Andrei Arlovski.

There are so many questions with so little answers. But this is the sport of MMA, where the only thing you can expect is the unexpected.